User talk:Oolong

I’m curious as to the development of aba not taking into account their patients long term and short term effects. The fact that autistic adults are screaming this is an abusive dog therapy designed by a perverted ableist doctor falling on deaf ears as more parents are shuffled into this miracle 17.5 billion industry. I hope you include the many articles written by autistic adults and attorneys about the harms of ABA and manage to include them in your synopsis of ABA so that all facts can be viewed and it would also help future consumers if the Dr who designed aba background wasn’t white washed, guy was a sexual predator who abused animals and designed therapy by abusing kids in the same way he did dogs. If your gonna be thorough please cover all sides

Oh hi, anonymous visitor! I think it's safe to say there is quite a bit of work still to do before the ABA entry is anywhere close to fairly balancing the views of autistic people, who are overwhelmingly opposed, with the views of people who do ABA for a living, who are of course broadly in favour.
It's a tricky thing to navigate, because as you probably know, Wikipedia is theoretically written from a Neutral Point of View, and all potentially controversial statements need to be backed up by reliable sources. So we can't just go in and edit the ABA entry to say something like 'this is a set of abusive practices, backed up by terrible-quality science and heavily promoted by people making enormous profits from it'; it's necessary to represent all sides of each debate as fairly as possible, using information from published sources - newspapers and books can work, but peer-reviewed research is particularly helpful, and even more particularly secondary medical literature, where relevant. Annoyingly, but not entirely unreasonably, that means the vast majority of writing by autistic people is not really citable here; for the most part, we're looking for things that have gone out through reputable publishers, and autistic people are still systematically under-represented in formally published literature on autism. --Oolong (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Oolong

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